Archive for June, 2010

Running Dublin – we want your money!!!

Posted by on Wednesday, 23 June, 2010

On October 25th the wife I will be running the Dublin marathon and are going to try and raise a bunch of money for the MS Society. We’d really appreciate your assistance with raising as much money as possible and have set ourselves a target of trying to raise £1000 each. If anyone would like to join us on the run that would be brilliant but if not then if you could spare a few gbp/ausd/usd or any other currency you have then the link is THANK YOU!!!!

#debill FOI request email #18907

Posted by on Thursday, 17 June, 2010

Have edited my FOI request to BIS re #debill to try and get the
information I am interested in.

———- Forwarded message ———-
From: Simon Whittaker
Date: 17 June 2010 21:31
Subject: Re: Freedom of Information Request 10/0699 – Internal Review

HI David,

Many thanks for your respose, what I am interested in discovering is
the process by which the Digital economy Bill was modified to include
items such as net disconnection and the incredible powers which Lord
Mandleson wanted to be granted to Secretary of State and which were
quite sensibly refused by the due process, I am also interested to
discover if it was planned to always implement this as a washup bill.
Therefore, I would like to rephrase my request as:

Please can you provide all communication(such as memoranda, email &
minutes of meetings) relating to the proposed digital economy bill
from August 2009, September 2009, October 2009, & November 2009 which
included Sion Simon, Lord Mandleson or Stephen Timms as participants
or recipients.

Many thanks


On 16 June 2010 09:59, REMOVED wrote:
> Simon
> I am unclear whether I replied to this.  I believe I started to do so, but can’t see an email in my sent box, so may not have finished it.
> Laura Williams has moved on to a new job now and so she wouldn’t be handling any further FOI requests about the Digital Economy Act.  If you send any adjusted request to me then I will pass it on to an action official.
> To be frank though, I really doubt that there is any information of the sort you are seeking to find at BIS or DCMS – for example we don’t hold any information at all about what Lord Mandelson may or may not have done other than as Ministerial business, for instance in his private capacity.
> Hope this helps.

Freedom of Information Request 10/0699 – Internal Review

Posted by on Tuesday, 15 June, 2010

Received this from BIS – further investigation required.

———- Forwarded message ———-
Date: 9 June 2010 19:05
Subject: Freedom of Information Request 10/0699 – Internal Review

Dear Mr Whittaker,

I am writing to you in response to your request for an internal review
in relation to FOI request 10/0699. Your original FOI request, made on
23 April 2010, asked for:

“Minutes of meetings which took place in August 2009 between Lord
Mandelson and David Geffen. I would also like to see all emails
relating to the proposed digital economy bill from August 2009,
September 2009 & October 2009 which were sent between Sion Simon, Lord
Mandleson & Stephen Timms.”

Following searches of relevant electronic and paper records, I confirm
what was said in Laura Williams’s email of 17th May to you, that we
have found that the information you requested on both parts of your
request is not held by this department, because there is no record of
such a meeting taking place as Ministerial business. Nor has any
information been withheld or subject to exemptions.

By way of explanation:
“Holding” information means information held relating to the business
of the Department that:
• we have created, or
• we have received from another body or person, or
• held by another body on our behalf

As the Digital Economy Bill was run as a joint Bill between the
Department for Business, Innovation and Skills and the Department for
Culture, Media and Sport, searches also included any relevant
information held or created on our behalf by the Department for
Culture, Media and Sport.

BIS use an email system that auto-deletes email after 12 months.
However, staff are asked to individually select and store emails which
document evidence of government activity and decisions in the
department’s electronic records and document management system, where
they are treated as a record, and usually deleted at about 7 years.

There is no specific policy relating to taking note or minutes of
meetings.  However, I refer you to Guidance on the Management of
Private Office Papers, published jointly by the Cabinet Office and The
National Archives which can be found on the National Archives’ website
In particular paragraphs 4 and 13 (ii) are relevant.

But having reasonably searched our records, we found first that there
is no record of such a meeting you referred to as having taken place
as Ministerial business. Therefore no minutes would be held by the
Department(s) and I confirm that there are none. Second, we found that
no such emails were sent using BIS’s Departmental email systems
between the Ministers and within the constraints listed in your

Lastly we would not be able to refer you to another Department(s) as
we are unaware of any records they keep regarding the subject of your
request apart from the Department for Culture, Media and Sport, which
we have been in contact with as mentioned above.

If you are not content with the outcome of the internal review, you
have the right to apply directly to the Information Commissioner for a
decision. The Information Commissioner can be contacted at:

          Information Commissioner’s Office
          Wycliffe House
          Water Lane
          SK9 5AF

Yours sincerely


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